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		<title>By: San Francisco Slam</title>
		<link>http://www.philipklein.com/2005/08/golf-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-539</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Slam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2005 17:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Klein&#039;s quip and the above post, quite frankly, reek of plain ignorance. With all due respect to both Klein and Jerry, they should hold off a little more on the armchair politics and focus on the true issue - doing the right thing. In the 21st century, gays should and must be treated equally. PERIOD.

That said, speaking as a gay man living in San Francisco, if one must mention the role of government then such a role is exceedingly clear. The role of government must in all cases step in and preserve equality to uphold the integrity of the basic foundation of the United States constitution - &quot;All men are created equal&quot;. Both Klein and Jerry would do well to remember this basic tennet instead of placing undue focus on the extremely nebulous concept of what actually constitutes limited government.

If one is to take the foundation of the U.S. consitution literally that all men are created equal, then it becomes striking clear that government must not only support gay marriage, but must also step in against outright gay discrimination. All too often, the discrimination that gays face is subverse. When a policy or discrimination is this outwardly and unabashadly egregious, the government must unequivocally vanquish such offenders and require them to immediately cease and desist such actions. Accordingly, I think you can come to no other conclusion that the ruling in the Bernardo Heights matter was not only justified, but I daresay necessary.

Unfortunately, there are just too many neanderthals running around that think gays are inferior. It is akin to the 1860s view of blacks and slavery. Over 140 years later, this country still has issues with black discrimination but few  would argue for slavery. Gay rights shall too persevere and reign victorious. Let&#039;s hope minor government intervention such as Bernardo Heights speeds the process along. It would be a shame for this country to suffer another Civil War to rectify a human rights issue that is so glaringly clear. But make no mistake, if we must, we will act on my right to bear arms should it become necessary.

Mr. Klein, the stakes are too high to focus on the technicalities of what does or does not constitute limited government. An entire generation of people and the their god given inevitable rights is at stake.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Klein&#8217;s quip and the above post, quite frankly, reek of plain ignorance. With all due respect to both Klein and Jerry, they should hold off a little more on the armchair politics and focus on the true issue &#8211; doing the right thing. In the 21st century, gays should and must be treated equally. PERIOD.</p>
<p>That said, speaking as a gay man living in San Francisco, if one must mention the role of government then such a role is exceedingly clear. The role of government must in all cases step in and preserve equality to uphold the integrity of the basic foundation of the United States constitution &#8211; &#8220;All men are created equal&#8221;. Both Klein and Jerry would do well to remember this basic tennet instead of placing undue focus on the extremely nebulous concept of what actually constitutes limited government.</p>
<p>If one is to take the foundation of the U.S. consitution literally that all men are created equal, then it becomes striking clear that government must not only support gay marriage, but must also step in against outright gay discrimination. All too often, the discrimination that gays face is subverse. When a policy or discrimination is this outwardly and unabashadly egregious, the government must unequivocally vanquish such offenders and require them to immediately cease and desist such actions. Accordingly, I think you can come to no other conclusion that the ruling in the Bernardo Heights matter was not only justified, but I daresay necessary.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, there are just too many neanderthals running around that think gays are inferior. It is akin to the 1860s view of blacks and slavery. Over 140 years later, this country still has issues with black discrimination but few  would argue for slavery. Gay rights shall too persevere and reign victorious. Let&#8217;s hope minor government intervention such as Bernardo Heights speeds the process along. It would be a shame for this country to suffer another Civil War to rectify a human rights issue that is so glaringly clear. But make no mistake, if we must, we will act on my right to bear arms should it become necessary.</p>
<p>Mr. Klein, the stakes are too high to focus on the technicalities of what does or does not constitute limited government. An entire generation of people and the their god given inevitable rights is at stake.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://www.philipklein.com/2005/08/golf-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-538</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 05:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post--I totally agree. One of the most neglected portions of the First Amendment is the &quot;right of the people to peaceably assemble,&quot; a right which, by my reckoning, means that private citizens can form groups that have their own rules and policies. Although the government may not agree with those policies, it doesn&#039;t necessarily have the right to overrule them.

This echoes the case of &quot;Boy Scouts of America v. Dale,&quot; in which the Supreme Court ruled that the Boy Scouts did not have to admit a gay scout leader. Gay rights groups cried foul, but the fact of the matter is that the Boy Scouts are a private organization, and they have the right to set the terms of their own membership.

This is, in a nutshell, what frequently irks me about the gay rights movement: they frequently repeat their mantras about not wanting the government to legislate morality, but then they try to use the government to enforce their own morality on private organizations. Yes, we should keep the government out of our bedrooms--but we should keep them out of our meeting rooms as well.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post&#8211;I totally agree. One of the most neglected portions of the First Amendment is the &#8220;right of the people to peaceably assemble,&#8221; a right which, by my reckoning, means that private citizens can form groups that have their own rules and policies. Although the government may not agree with those policies, it doesn&#8217;t necessarily have the right to overrule them.</p>
<p>This echoes the case of &#8220;Boy Scouts of America v. Dale,&#8221; in which the Supreme Court ruled that the Boy Scouts did not have to admit a gay scout leader. Gay rights groups cried foul, but the fact of the matter is that the Boy Scouts are a private organization, and they have the right to set the terms of their own membership.</p>
<p>This is, in a nutshell, what frequently irks me about the gay rights movement: they frequently repeat their mantras about not wanting the government to legislate morality, but then they try to use the government to enforce their own morality on private organizations. Yes, we should keep the government out of our bedrooms&#8211;but we should keep them out of our meeting rooms as well.</p>
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